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Turning with Gloves On
Mark Hancock:
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--- Quote from: Richard Findley on November 08, 2013, 12:14:37 PM ---I've been resisting joining in on this one as I often get myself on trouble!
Let's look at the facts:
It is bad practice to wear gloves while using woodworking machinery.
I'd say for 99% of the time there is no reason to, and certainly a beginner should not be wearing them.
However, I have occasionally worn gloves for turning. If you have ever made a batch of 8" diameter laminated oak table legs you will know that, without gloves, both hands will end up lacerated and full of splinters. I'd imagine the same is the case if roughing a large amount of large bowls and/or logs.
When wearing gloves I am fully aware of the potential dangers, and take the calculated risk of wearing them rather than suffering with painful hands for the next few days.
I would just emphasise that I would not recommend or teach the wearing of gloves to the inexperienced but feel comfortable taking the measures risk myself when needed - which is not very often I must say!
Richard
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Couldn't agree more.
As a woodturner you should be continually assessing the risk and take the appropriate action to reduce the potential danger.
I would suggest that danger of entanglement with a glove is less than the physical injury to a hand caused by flying splinters.
If you took these risk arguments to their extreme you would never switch a lathe on - revolving timber at high speed and no guard? This situation happened at one of the NEC shows. The H&S people came round prior to the show opening and asked for guards to be fitted to all the lathes. ::)
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Yes, lathes without guards at shows is common and demo's, but if you use one which I often do, you then have to put red tape everywhere to stop people walking behind them. Even then I have found someone behind me looking through my tool box.
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Mark
Probably didn't make myself clear. The guard requested by H&S was a cage around the revolving timber! They backed down when it was shown how ridiculous the idea was because the turner wouldn't be able to turn with the cage in the way ::)
But I agree with what you say regarding shields up in front of lathes. It then encourages the public to come around the side and from behind.
Paul Disdle:
This is turning into an interesting read.
I like Eric and for the same reasons wear gloves for winter turning and any other work I carry out in my multi disciplined workshop. I wear these http://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-general-handling-3-finger-framer-gloves-grey-large/41324
I am fully trained from my job in the dark art of risk assessment and on the face of it what the bowler hatted turner says can not be argued against. But the reality is some people need gloves to be able to facilitate their turning. At the point you have to re assess your risks and implement using gloves in the safest way possible.
We all take care of the postion of our hands un-gloved as getting fingers bashed and trapped hurts, so why would you take less care when you put gloves on.
Just my thoughts
Paul
The Bowler Hatted Turner:
here is another thought. It might only apply to me but when I am turning I am constantly touching and feeling what I am making, this may be down to failing eyesight but I think I have always worked this way on the lathe.If I was to suddenly start wearing gloves I feel that could be the cause of an accident in an unguarded and unconscious action.
Regards
John BHT
Paul Disdle:
I think that sums up why a lot of people have accidents, its familiarity or the unconscious action. These are the hardest things to guard against.
Paul
bodrighywood:
Like most turners there have been times when I have carelessly caught a sleeve or something, it's easily done and the resultant tearing is enough to stop me wearing gloves. Like John I rely as much on touch and feel as sight and that would not be possible with gloves either. As far as it being co0ld at times I have used a directed fan heater when it has been so cold as to be a problem. Doing it for a living means I don't have the luxury of not turning jus because the temperature drops.
Pete
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