I've never had anybody ignorant enough to call my work a bodge for those good turners who requested a picture I'm a bit of a luddite with modern technology and as the bowel has been delivered, and now resides in Portugal and is no doubt full of fresh lovely fruit, for which it was intended does it matter really how it was fixed the most important thing is the customer loves it and was happy with the end result. Today I have turned eighteen large complicated pine table legs from crap fast grown kiln dried wood, without a single mistake. So tonight I'm relaxing with a lovely glass or two of red. and sticking two fingers up to those people who can't offer constructive advice to a new member, but are happier to criticise. I taught casualty care and emergency first aid to Medical personnel from many different countries including Germans ,Dutch, Argentinians Chilians and Iranians and no I can't spell and my grammar and punctuation may leave a lot to be desired but when the shit hits the fan and your bleeding to death or having a heart attack and crying out for your mum I stand a fair chance of saving your life.wWould you critics still be moaning then? I wonder yours GedMeager QGM