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woodndesign:

--- Quote from: Andy Coates on March 01, 2011, 11:08:11 PM ---Here you go...HSE Toxicity in Woods Document...



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http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/wis30.pdf...    Thanks Andy,  your a star...   not a full list, some I've been using are not mentioned.. 

one being Goncalo Alves, most recent work, I'll have a runny nose soon after I starting, not one for the friendly list..

David

BrianH:
If that is the same info the HSE sent me a yonk or two ago, as research for a magazine article, I would question its actual relevence as well as suggesting an element of caution when reading it. I was told, at that time, that ALL the research work done in this area has been, quite understandably, concerned solely with 'Safety at work' ie 8 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week, 48 weeks a year within a factory environment. When I asked if I could safely extrapolate (my word of the week, incidentally) down to a couple of hours in a drafty shed or garage, once a fortnight, the 'experts' screamed in latin, covered their ears and ran away to hide.
The straight facts of the matter, as I understood them, were that no-one actually knew how (un)safe we hameteurs were as we went about our hobby but, again quite understandably, the retailers, with plenty of help from under-informed woodies, keep the fires of worry well stoked in order to keep us all buying their wares.
Cat among pigeons or what  :o
Brian

woodndesign:

Brian, Some very good points in what you've said, most of these issues are over a long term and for commercial works and saw mills etc..  and is it, that in fact there are no answer, just guild lines, any dust or conact can be dangerous, cases Industure, Mines and Farming over the past.

A similar area, if not a different subject is Noise and how the HSE address the subject in much the same way..   In the early 80's they came into the Commercial body builders/equipment works, I was at and measured everything, opening the main doors, vehicles running, grinding & grinders, air & electric drill, lathes, chop saws, pushes, mills, air wrenches everthing, right up close to you or the equipment over 3 days the most..  They came up with.. yes to much Noise.. This again was based on the facts of working 5 days and 48 hrs... in that case no piece of equipment would be run continually for those lenghts of time or all at the same time..   the one most important thing out of it all really was, everyones goggles were not impact resistant..  just rated for dust...

We had eyes tested and given safety glasses and ear protectors..  did we all look daft..   ???...   since that time in any job, this has only came down to me personally to safe guard yourself..

An area to think about in our line is Viration, then again, as with dust and noise, not all of us are exposed to it long term and we do take to safe guard ourselves from them.

David

thebowlerhattedturner:
I agree that H&S is the responsibility of the individual (how many of us smoke?) but surely there should be actual data somewhere concerning just about everything. We know from experience that some woods, Iroko in my case, can really cause an unpleasant if not dangerous reaction, but I do know people that are totally unaffected by it. That doesn't mean that it is any less dangerous to them just that their acceptance (?) level is different.
John

thebowlerhattedturner:
The other thing is we know that Maple sap is ok (Maple syrup) but the dust of the maple is to be avoided and that Oak contains tannin which turns black on contact with steel but preccious little is known about Yew sap, if we knew what reacted with taxolwe might then be able to get artificial colour into the wood.
John

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