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Tim Pettigrew:
As always I enjoyed receiving my copy of Revolutions when it dropped through the letter box last Friday.  The article by young turner Harry Rodwell was good in exemplifying the welcome take-up of wood turning by the younger generation.  However I was concerned on page 8, (paragraph 1.1) where he stated that he trued-up his cross-grained bowl blank using a Spindle Roughing Gouge. I hope that someone will tactfully educate him to the fact that this puts him at risk of serious injury.

Bill21:
I’m no expert on wood turning tools, especially gouges so I won’t disagree with anyone on the subject.

However, I’ve seen several professional demonstrations where spindle gouges were used on cross grain pieces and bowl gouges were used on spindle work.

Personally I’m going to stick with not using a spindle gouge on a bowl but others seem to.  ;)

I haven’t checked these out myself yet so there’s probably a caveat in there somewhere. I’m just posting for interest.

The top five hits on a Google search:





I’ve been meaning to buy one of these but never got round to it.   :D


https://www.ashleyilestoolstore.co.uk/turning-tools/multipurpose/12mm-1-2-martin-pidgen-all-rounder-multi-purpose-gouge

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Twisted Trees:
Spindle Roughing Gouge and other forged (continental spindle gouge) should never be used cross grain, and as a general rule it is safer to tell the inexperienced not to use a bar style spindle gouge on cross grain either. Richard Raffan does it a lot, but he is listening and feeling for things an inexperienced turner will miss, and I would say has a lot less probability of a catch or a too heavy cut.

I do YouTube video's and often do things that I would really do in my workshop as a matter of course, but would never teach a beginner to do, which is wrong I admit, but I do try to point out what risks I am mitigating even simple things, but you can't always think of the beginners.   

BrianH:
Bill
A Spindle roughing gouge and a spindle gouge are 2 very different animals. Don't get too carried away with the names and work at understanding how the tool cuts. Then you can make an informed decision on what to use where.
I also wouldn't consider using a roughing gouge on cross grain work but would have no problem using bowl or spindle gouges on either orientation but, of course, those decisions would be based on my own knowledge, experience and grinding scheme.
This woody lark can be mighty confusing can't it???
Best
Brian

Twisted Trees:
I have just re-read the article i.e. reading every word not just the paragraph headings.

Couple of points come to mind,

This was done at School, so the class teacher has a responsibility on this.
Obviously the SRG shouldn't have left the tool box.
He mentions drilling a 12mm hole to fit the bowl gouge. This indicates he possibly back hollowed with a 3/8" bowl gouge?

Obviously in an ideal world any teacher with a lathe in the classroom should do at least a foundation course in turning with a competent instructor, but as we don't live there, could the AWGB do a crib sheet especially for teachers who may not turn themselves, but are responsible for a lathe in the classroom, and find a way of getting it into the Department of Education? Perhaps with a list of AWGB resources that could educate the teachers further.

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